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ok, first off let me thank all you fine lads and lasses for all your help in the other thread

I will be updating this thread as the progress goes on…mods sticky this

the idea is :
-break the shit down…there’s a wall diving 2 rooms in my small basement, get rid of it
-reroute a pipe under the concreat
-reinsulate the whole thing and revapor barrier it, cause it’s done poorly
-finish it, make it sexy, watch hockey there with the boys…already got a nice LCD I’m eyeing

so it has commenced…today was demo day, got one of my good friends to help me out, thanks Reid when you read this, could of done it without ya, but it would of taken a long ass time

alright so first thing’s first, moved everything upstairs…the living room is a fucking mess:

pics of what it was, pre destruction:

ZE EEK CLOCK

what is this we see?

he dares not spray the eek…I warned him

the eek remains, watching over us, protecting us

one wall down…the dividing one

some weird ass shit we found in one of the insulation walls…I am guessing this is a bee nest, and it was tehre during constuction…anyone know for sure?

cleanup done…10 hours later, non stop

good tools fucking PWN, my baby…2nd love of my life, after my car…I mean wife

so…11 hours invested so far, started at 9:30….it’s 8:16 now, and I haven’t showered yet…wife in there now, pics later
oh ya that’s a vintage supersoaker 30 we got there…if anyone wants it, pm me, it still works

oh I forgot, electrician’s coming in to do it, we’re going with about 20 pod lights all on dimmers, a floating ceiling, except the lowered parts are gonna be drywalled, and carpet in the basement against OT’s wishes

i’m'a shoot you with teh supersoacker bitch

nice, i assume youre going to replace all of that nasty insulation for some newer more efficient stuff

yep, and new vapour barrier…part of the reason I wanted to redo it was because it was very moist down there in the summer, a lot worst then any other basement, lucky for us there was no mould, but it’ll be our main living space, so I need to get it done well

gonna insulate the floor with delta-ms as well, unless we go withs omething diff

it’ll be done to the best way I can afford…I’d love to get someone to come in and spray, but the quote was like 1500$, it’s jsut a bit too much for my cheap ass
Mike Holmes would tell you to spend your money in the right places and spray foam

mike holmes also has a lot more $, and aint spending his money in the show

vapo+good insulation will make the world of a difference, esp since we’re going with something for the floor…the vapor right now is as thick as seran wrap, and the bottom half aint even done
Lookin good so far. I started stripping my basement but it has a major water problem and the drywall was molded two feet up the wall all around. Some boards were totally rotted at the bottom and there are spiders everywhere in the old musty basement. I got all the walls down, just need to remove the ceiling and the raised floor that I know is gonne be scary underneath because of all the water. I have to take the stairs out also because some of the wood has rotted.
update:

can’t leave teh studs in now, they are wobbly…started tearing them down, got about half way done and my allergies were going nuts…so I stopped…gonna finish off tonight/tomorrow

electrical guy comes by saturday so I have to studs up by then…gonna be tight

what studs? couldnt just put some nails in them to sturdy them up?

ya, I could

but some of them have a bit of water damage, so I am totally gonna reframe them…

only a 400$ diff in the end

ah good deal then, are you changing the layout any or adding anything like a bar?

well the layout’s gotta be changed, and that was one of the main reasons for us to do it…we totally ripped down 1 wall to open it up

I’d love to add a bar + pool table/game area, but not enough room

right now the plan is for us to frame it, then decide on layout, but the main reason for it, is to divide it into a movie/tv room, and an office for me

the one issue we’re having is layout…the ‘movie’ couch we have now is 12 feet wide…we can’t really put it on any wall, which sux, so once we decide where that goes, we’ll see how much room we really have…I wish I could build a small movie theatre room, but with that couch, it won’t happen

we need to make it kid friendly because we plan on having kids in the next little while

yeah iremember that from an earlier thread where you were talking about carpet

still none yet

probally after this basement’s done we’ll stop practicing and start trying

offnote, I hired some help to come help me out, he really knows his shit and it will speed things up…gonna cost me like a grand though just in labour but whatever
updizzle:

everything is down now…and it’s just concreat there…apparently where we have a chimney, some water is getting in, and some of the wood up near the joist are rotten…gonna fix it before proceeding…

tomorrow/this weekend, thats my goal, stop the water from getting in…no idea where it’s coming from, I just recently replaced some of the wood on the outside around it, and it could of been from there…but will inspect further and post what it is I find

ok so investigated…2 of the joists have water damage…pretty fucking shitty, got a guy coming in to cap the wood on the exterior in 2 weeks, cleaned up some of the wood there, and revapor barriered it…that should fix the issues

the joists I am not overly concerned about…they are far enough apart and the damage is not horrendous, so life will move on

I am building my next house

its the superaids

shit like that sucks when you start tearing things up, hidden issues always fuck up a reno, luckily you caught it before it caused real problems though i ll design your next house for you

if your designs can meet ontario codes, we may just need to talk

send me an ontario code book
update:

ok so the guy I hired, I got rid of him, he didn’t last long

got another guy to help out, we’re framing this saturday…decided to go with spray foam and found some stuff for the floor

I keep changing my mind, so i’ll update as I decide and move progress along

I want to make mike holmes proud

are you an actual architect?

not yet gotta put in my internship time and take the exam but i graduated from grad school and im currently working in a firm designing residential
update:

cleaned off the rest, cut some wood, painted about 1 foot up the wall and 3 feet on the floor, putting down a special membrane (100$ for 200sq/ft ) before we frame it tomorrow, apparently the paint is needed to help it ahear…

tomorrow, I will be at 6am to start this shit…I’ll post pics once it’s all done

we will need to talk
updated pictars:

so about 1/2 the walls are done…and we laid down this shark skin membrane that looks tough as shit

we raised the framing off teh wall to allow them to spray under it, and to make drywall install a bit easier

this week: finish framing, make appt to have them come and spray foam..

then do electrical, and drywall

almost there … I hope
thanks and i’ll keep em coming

george (father in law) is coming by tomorrow and wed apparently to finish off the framing

then gotta call the people to come in and do the spray foam, then it’s I’d consider us past the hard part…drywall, floor and electrical should be straight forward for the most part
Should the electrical be roughed in before the spray foam?

I am not sure, should it? I see the advantage of both…I mean do we want teh wire hiding behind the insulation? I guess it depends…I was gonna wait and ask the people who are gonna spray

Update:

I called a few places who do spray foam, cause I lost the email with the quote (and I dont know the company name) and they all want a shitload more…gonna call a few more, and if the quotes are still outrageous (2200$+gst*7%*) for 500 sq/ft…I am gonan go with regular ass insulation…we’ll see

I will update once I have news again
and yes if we go with regular all those wonderful walls are ocming down

dude wait, wat?

sorry I meant is, I’d have to take them off to put the felt paper behind them and shit…but ya, spray foam it is

found a place that says they’ll do it 1 grand

2 inches, apparently an R value of 12 or 14

progress has been made tonight, not much, but we hope to have the framing done soon, I will be taking lots of pictars

thats what i thought but i was confused

yep

got the electrical roughed in, except for the lights…more cleanup and ready to have someone come in and spray foam

i’ll take pics this weekend

sorry for the delay in replying, I got banned for posting a picture of a boob cake in the main forum

here’s updated pictars…not much diff

so this week, ideally, i’ll finish up the electrical, and have them come spray foam in 1-2 weeks…the work is seriously exhausting
we put vapor barrier on the back of the wood, so the tight ones wouldn’t be directly touching the concreat…the loose ones, the spray foam will probally get in behind it, but we put some on them anyways, I am gonna staple them on as well this week, we have them held on by 1 nail
so we started to take down the fireplace today…let me tell ya, it’s fucking cold otuside (46f)

just did a 2 hour job on it, will resume tonight/tomorrow, and take pics when I can … this is a huge fucking job, i’m exhausted and just want it to be over
pictar’s…ended up starting up again when my father in law came…
it’s pretty bad, fireplace is all down and so is the bottom half of the assembly…no good pics, but here’s 3 decent ones

we ended up filling the hole with plywood and just put some insulatoin for the night

tomorrow, we hopefulyl finish it off, adn rebuild…what a fucking pain in the arse…

but ya, good times
update…got the bottom half done and sealed up

all that was ’seriously’ rotten got taken away…and it was quite a lot, let me tell ya

the plywood is hiding a lot of good work we did, but t’is ok…

the plate on the left is just stained black, it seems pretty sturdy
so what exactly are you doing with the chimney now? rebuilding it the same as it was?

nope
totally tearing it down

me and the wife dont like chimney’s to begin with, and if we do decide to get one later, we’ll just get a gas insert or something.

drywall has been put up on the inside, and the outside bottom part is done…this weekend, take the rest down
update…was talking with my father in law and he’s suggesting we build a circular ceiling around the boxes…but instead we decided to do something like this…

keep in mind this is a top view…we might even have the carpet go 2 colors to follow the pattern…just a bit of a different color, not major, but enough to make it stands out a bit

also in the boxes, we’re gonna put lights so they shine

anyone have any suggestions? feedback? ideas? anything

this is the time
X’s in that picture include boxes that have to be built

the two vertical strong lines are the metal beams

yeah not quite sure what your trying to do

damnit

you’ll see it when we do it
blk, I think it’s just the two of us

no one else cares

lol

apparently my MS paint skills leave something to be desired

k just ignore that part, y’all will see what I mean

mah nga

I was gonna give up on posting pictars, but i’ll keep it up

started puttying the hole in the living room and father in law got sick, he’s in bed now…we shall continue this weekend

big plans for the basement…y’all wait and see, it’s gonna be one of the nicest you ever seen *

im living vicariously through you since i have no home or basement to renovate

tell me what you’d like me to do and i’ll do my best to fit them in
I care as well.

I’m in pain watching you tear down that fireplace/chimney. I want one in my house so bad.

come pick it up and you can have it the frame is good, and the pipe’s are still good.

update…somewhat unrelated:…all the fixtures in the house now have energy efficient bulbs, except my office for now…had to replace 3 fixtures, were pretty cheap but I just finished installing them…shoulders are fucking killing me but we are trying to make the house somewhat eco friendly so we decided to just get it done

will finish up the putty on the drywall tonight and snap some pictars
Looks nice; I can definately feel your pain though. I am just wrapping up a nearly complete renovation of the main floor of my house, and will be hitting the basement next

My before pictures are ugly, but the after ones should turn out VERY nice
When you own a house, there’s always something to be done. Your renovation diary is fascinating to us, but will be something you will later treasure. There’s a lot of satisfaction when projects are complete, especially when you do them yourself. Its an education, isn’t it? I’m sure you and your family will get a lot of enjoyment out of the new basement room, and it’ll almost certainly increase the value of your home when you go to sell it.

Again, thanks for sharing.
sorry for the delay guys, we been working our asses off, and thanks for the feedback, here’s some pics

DURING our drywall adventure:

where we’re at now:

what outside looks like…2 days of snow

I’m so lost…The fuck is all this chimney stuff? Seemed to come out of nowhere…

I thought this thread was about the basement, what happened to that? Did you put it on hold or something?

Anyway, good work on tearing down the fireplace.

lol sorry man…ya I am a bit all over the place lately, I’ll clear it up

ok as we started doing the basement, we saw a hole in the floor for upstairs, and two rotten joists from water damage (exterior ones for the chimney)…and a big ass hole that was letting in cold air coming from the extended joists for the chimney…so we realized then there was a leak…how bad, we didn’t know…so we took the bottom part of the chimney off and realized that it was all rotten…so me and the wife decided it was coming down

basically, we had to cut off about two feet to the right side of teh chimney, cause the plywood was so rotten and replaced it…also the wood support for the 2nd floor were also rotten so those had to be replaced, so we restudded 4-5 studs there, rebuild the plate and sistered the joists…now we finished drywalling, and have the top half of the chimney to take off, we also have to rebuild some of the roof, probally add an extra vent up there cause it needs one, and go from there…

update today: since teh upstairs drywall was done (we primered it and touched it up)…we cleaned up EVERYTHING in the middle floor, and OMG…it’s like a new fucking house, it seriously feels so nice, and a lot bigger…go figure

I hope that clears it up
Gotcha. Good thing you spotted that and got it all cleared up!
Hahaha, I can’t emagine working with snow outside, most of my projects have slowed down thanks to 40-50 degree evenings.
looking good…waiting for more basement pics haha…and i spy a sentra se-r i can has your wheels?
updizzate:

half the floor is down…went with blue skin all over the floor, then 3/4 of rigid foam seperated every 14.5 inches, with 1.5 inches in between with wood, and over it, sprouce (I think) toungue and groove plywood…it’s coming together, we plan on having the floor done this weekend, dude comes in to spray on tuesday next week (IF he shows up, we have our doubts), and it’s coming together quick…goal is to finish it by dec 22nd…it’s gonna be tight but we’ll do our best to get her done the ceiling is gonnabe a bitch, just wait t’il y’all see it…gonna be hawt

you got a sentra too?

i’m'a keeping my wheels

picked up an 05 1.8s a few months ago, want ser wheels cause i got steelies

no 2.5 no care

update: finishhed the floor tonight

tomorrow, clean up, add a vent for heat down there since there’s only 1 now, and clean out all the ducts, and tape them up so there’s no heat loss

it’s coming together…feels nice to have the floor done, seriously
update: spray foam people just left, I got a video for you nignog’s

here’s pictars, video link at the end

video:

got 3 inches on the joysts
2 inches on the walls

had them do all the joysts around the basement, they came here, told them cash money or I straight up kill you, barked a few times, finally they agreed

cost: 1060$ good price, good price

wish this reno was going fast i want after pics!

speaking of fast , update:

drywall has been put on half the walls…the ceiling we will do last, we have the other 2 walls to finish, hopefully tomorrow, then decide how we want the curvature in the ceiling and start that bitch up

hopefully by end of this weekend, they’ll be serious progress, and even though we went with 2 inches on the walls and 3 in the plate, we bought regular fiberglass insulation and putting some all over, it was cheap, cost me 100$, and it adds a bit of R valuezzz…and for hte first time working in the basement, I was sweating with a Tshirt on, seriously … I turned off the heat to the house until we finished…it’s fucking warmer then the middle floor

dec 22, dec 22, dec 22nd…
You might’ve answered this already, but are you doing a drywall ceiling or a drop ceiling?

drywall with wavey artsy fartsy patterns and lights
updates:

drywall on teh walls has been placed, and some on the ceiling…

pictars:

this weekend: electrical, exterior water pipe (changing the pipes to the non-freeze ones, so they can never burst, both the backyard and the garage, got hte backyard one done today, garage tomorrow) and finish the ducts
ok now the cieling makes sense…damn your paint skillz looks good

thanks man, pics don’t do it justice to tell ya the truth but clearly outperform my mspaint skillz
how did you do the bottom plate for the soffit framing?

say what?

ya lost me

most people use two layers of 3/4 plywood, looks like he did too
looks good broseph, but damn you are using twice as many screws in the drywall as you need, you must love taping or something the curved top soffet(sp) looks good but I would have used wacky board/bending plywood, helps make the base a lot easier to work off of, lookin forward to the final results

how do you figure thats too many screws? Looks avearge to me

it’s 8 feet high and I count 8 screws on average, which is close to 1 every foot …and what do you mean taping? you dont tape over screw holes, you tape over joints and shit, you just putty over screw holes

we’ve come to a stop for two month, my help is leaving to go on a vacation and I am taking a break

I’ll update the thread when we start working again…

oh, this week we’re gonna finish the hardwood on the middle floor and install some book shelves there for the wifey

I am guessing the soffit means the curve on the ceiling?

we build it out of 5/8 or 3/4, not sure anymore plywood…

traced it out, cut it out of a sheet of plywood, made a copy, roitered the edges so it’s smooth, then used bracing to attach the two pieces together

we used a nailgun + no more nails tube for extra str…I am actually surprized how strong it is

oh ok…they have a product called flex-plate i think that allows you to frame curves really easily didnt know if you used something like that…you cant take a break! keep going i want to see the finished product
wavy stuff looks great. What kind of texture are you going to put on the ceiling?
Can you tell a noticeable difference in temperature after the insulation?
sorry got banned again, this time for like 2 weeks back today

blk, thanks mah nga, I’ll have to check it out

amd…no texture, just straight drywall…unless the wife changes my mind

ras…yes, huge difference, 1 vent now is totally sufficient to heat the whole basement, we were planning on dropping 2 more vents down there…but there’s no need…compared to regular insulation, I am not sure, cause I just moved in the house in june of this year

so just primer/paint ceiling? Dont forget pics, as I gotta tackle the ceiling soon

yep pretty much

I’ll do pics when I start working on it again, I am taking a break t’il februarish

stop getting bant

I am not trying to

I think people have declared a jihad on me
wow.. great job. I just noticed this post.

You should shoot a video of your basement and host it up somewhere.

I’ll be doing a major reno to my house in the spring time (adding 800sq feet onto it) so I am taking as much in as I can for tips and inspiration.
Good work Tone. Always happy to help if you need a hand.

Thanks Ross

Thanks man

Want a video of the basement now or when we’re done? it’s pretty bad right now, got shit lying all over the place

btw, during my bannation, finished the hardwood on the first floor, painted the wall, installed some book shelves for teh wifey

woowoo, feels nice
^ that

looks good.. nice job. I like the look of the hardwood and dark book shelves.

Good job.
How about a video now.. and one after you are done.

Its hard to figure things out of with just pics..
hardwood looks good, is it laminate? How tedious was the installation?

hardwood

it was a bitch to install because the tiles previously made a straight line across, and so was the hardwood…you can see it here at the bottom:

so what we ended up doing is instead of taking out half the floor and resuming, we ended up roitoring the shorter pieces out and slid the hardwood down inside the grooves and built it that way…pretty slick if you ask me, saved us a lot of trouble and there’s no straight line on the hardwood anymore..the last piece couldn’t of been slid down, so we ended up roitoring the edge and put it on with quite a bit of glue (we were using glue and nails for all of them) and ended up nailing it a bit up top for the last piece, doesn’t show luckily cause of hte color of the hardwood
here’s a pic of the hardwood now..

can’t tell it was ever touched

thanks man

video’s uploading, but it’s a serious mess

vide of the basement in it’s current stage

no lighting because the only light that works now is the laundry room light, the rest has to be redone

my father in law has a death wish, I swear

not really

but worked has commenced again…

i’ll post pics/update this weekend
haha ya

here’s a video of where we’re at:

got the carpet guy coming out to measure friday…gonna schedule him for 2 weeks from that friday…yipee
curved ceiling soffits look hot…painting before carpet i hope
yep, just debating on color now…we got the carpet picked out and the wife wants a green on teh walls…not sure about it

carpet guy comes to measure tomorrow
Green carpet? I’m guessing you guys plan on replacing it again if you move, right?
nah

beigish carpet, green walls

sorry
finished (all but baseboard moldings), here’s 2 pics

video:

it’s been fun…here’s some brain dump on the whole thing

I’d estimate the whole thing cost 6-7G’s me doing it myself

the carpet was 1500$, the spray foam 1100$, the misc stuff add up the rest…shit adds up fast…it’s really incredible

I doubt i’ll ever do this or something this big again…the final result is awesome, but jobs this big are not for me, I’ll stick to small jobs, I don’t have the patience and the drive to do something this big again…a weekend job at most…the house was filthy during the whole process and our relationship saw better days

the ceiling took more then 25 man hours, seriously

it’s very rewarding to see the finished product, and sit in it and enjoy a movie (need a new tv, I know )

the more people, the faster it goes…it’s incredible how big of a load another person can take off your shoulders

if you’re gonna do something, do it right…I almost didn’t fix the stairs (they were making noise) and was going to be lazy about it and let it go…but I got pushed into fixing it and glad I did…no more noises and they feel solid as a rock…small things like that

give yourself a lot of time and don’t rush it

tools are 75% of a good job…the rest is measuring 4 times, cutting once, asking questions, and not being lazy

hope this thread has inspired some people to do work around their house…we just finished and we’re talking about our next ‘upgrade’…might end up extending the bathroom, installing a standup shower, new tub, tiling the floors and a few other things (lcd in wall, speakers in the stand up shower, shit like that)…yep…it really never ends, and of course if this happens, OT will get a thread about it

I might update this thread in the spring when we finish the outside, remove the rest of the chimney…probally gonna end up taking off all the siding on that side of the house, and installing foam board over the plywood, and residing it…we’ll see, still undecided
finally! the ceiling looks badass…i thought you were doing can lights in the curves though?

thanks homie, ended up deciding against it,e nough lighting with the 12 lights we found, adn we just wanted to finish

thanks

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